Saturday, September 20, 2014

Csihas–Surname Saturday

Csiha - Surname CloudVariants of the surname are Csias, Csiharsch, Czihas,

My Csihas ancestors start with Rupert Csihas, my 6th Great Grandfather. He was born abt 1720 in Bohemia. It is here that he married Helena Eleonora ?? and they had the following children:

1. Simon – born abt 1751 (5th Great Grandfather)
2. Susanna – born abt 1753
3. Josef – born abt 1757.  He married Katharina ?? on 25 November 1777 in Batschsentiwan, Batschka, Hungary, Austria’'.
4. Johann – born abt 1761 and died 5 May 1826 in Milititsch, Batschka, Hungary, Austria. He would marry three times; Elisabeth Prislinger in 1799 in Doroslo, Anna Maria Pfaltz on 22 Jan 1782 in Batschsentiwan, and Katharina Schroeder on 19 June 1894 in Doroslo.
5. Anna Klara – born abt 1765

Rupert and his family are immigrant ancestors. They emigrated from Bohemia in 1766 and settled in the village of Batschsentiwan, Batschka, Hungary, Austria. As part of their travel, they passed through Vienna in June of that year to register for the land they planned on settling. During registration Rupert reported his occupation as a sculptor. In 1768 we know that they resided at house number 47 in Batschsentiwan.

Batschsentiwan is currently called Prigrevica and is located in Serbia. You can read more about the Batschsentiwan settlement here: DVHH Village List - Batschsentiwan.

Ruperts wife, Helena, died in Batschsentiwan on 24 November 1780. Rupert followed her in death 12 years later, 17 August 1792 in Batschsentiwan.

Simon, their first born and my 5th great grandfather, would marry 4 times in Batschsentiwan.

1. Katharina Seider on 24 January 1775
2. Katharina Harjung on 26 August 1788
3. Barbara Weber on 2 July 1793
4. Anna Maria Schiebli (5th great grandmother) on 22 Sept 1795.

Simon and Anna would have 2 children, both born in Batschsentiwan :

1. Franz – Born 22 Aug 1796 (4th Great Grandfather)
2. Simon – Born 30 April 1805

Franz would marry Anna Kutsch but I am not sure where or when. I am assuming they married in Batschsentiwan but it could have also been Milititsch as this is where all their children were born. There children were:

1. Josephus – born 1818 (3rd Great Grandfather)
2. Johann – born 1829 and died 22 Sept 1909. He married Theresia Steckart on 22 Nov 1860 in Milititsch.

Josephus, also known as Josef, married Anna Maria Piller on 10 August 1843 in Milititsch. They would have five children, all born in Milititsch.

1. Jakob – born 12 Sept 1843 and died 25 May 1849
2. Josef – born 31 Oct 1844 and died 22 Nov 1844
3. Magdalena – born 11 March 1846 and died 19 Dec 1917. She would marry two times:
           a. Jakob Doriath (1840 – 1891) on 7 Aug 1865
           b. Josef Schuy (1838 – 1899) on 29 Jan 1894
4. Anna Maria – born 5 Feb 1848
5. Rosalia, by 2nd Great Grandmother

Rosalia was born 27 July 1850. She married Augustine Hinterhauser (1848 – 1891) on 30 June 1873. She died about 1915 maybe in Germany. They had 10 children with their last being my Great Grandmother, Anna Maria Hinterhauser. I’ve posted many times about her: Ship Manifest, Tombstone Tuesday, Census Sunday, Ancestor Appreciation Day

These are my Csihas ancestors, please let me know if your ancestors fit in anywhere, maybe we are related.

Thanks for reading and keep diggin’ for that family.

Chris

Sources used:

- Jakob Schuy and Paul Scherer, Ortssippenbuch Batschsentiwan 1763-1827 (Lappersdorf, Germany: Forschungsgemeinschaft Mittelbatschka zu Hd. Herrn Andreas Pfuhl, 1992), Page 53 - 55, Family 0260 - 263.

- Jakob Schuy, Ortssippenbuch Miletitsch(Racz Milititsch-Srpski Miletitsch-Berauersheim)in der Batschka, (Schriesheim, Arbeitskreis Donauschwaebischer Familienforscher, 1987)

- Római Katólikus (Roman Catholic) Egyház, Rácmilitics, "Halottak Anyakönyvek (Death Registry) 1826-1895" (Salt Lake City: Filmre vette a Genealogical Society of Utah, 1964. FHL Film 0638191).

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Tuesday, September 16, 2014

This Day in History–16 September

This Day in HistoryOn this day in:

1664 – Susanna Capen (Wife’s 1st cousin 9 times removed) was born in Dorchester, England.

1673 – Dorothy Capen (Wife’s 1 cousin 9 times removed) was born in Dorchester, Massachusetts.

1805 – Mathias Piller (3rd Great Granduncle) was born in Milititsch, Batschka, Hungary, Austria.

1915 – Edith Kater (Wife’s Great Grandaunt) was born.

 

Thank you for reading – if you find a link to our family or would like to know anything more about those listed above, please contact me.

Keep diggin’ for that family.

Chris

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Monday, September 15, 2014

This Day in History–15 September

imageOn this day in:

1774 – Sarah Capen (Wife’s 3rd cousin 7 times removed) married Joseph Pratt.

1848 – Adam Piller (1st cousin 4 times removed) was born in Milititsch, Batschka, Hungary, Austria.

Thank you for reading – if you find a link to our family or would like to know anything more about those listed above, please contact me.

Keep diggin’ for that family.

Chris

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Sunday, September 14, 2014

This Day in History–14 September

This Day in HistoryOn this day in:

1754 – Charity Capen (Wife’s 5th Great Grandaunt) was born in Braintree, Massachusetts. 

1777 – Maria Johanna Morlock (5th Great Grandaunt) was born in Schellbron, Neuhausen which is in the current state of Baden-Wuertemberg, Germany.

Mr and Mrs Joseph Lucas, 14 Sept 19351935 – Joseph Lucas married Teresa Pakledinaz (Grandparents) in Carleton, Michigan.

 

 

 

 

And Happy Birthday to my big brother, Bill Shaw.

Thank you for reading – if you find a link to our family or would like to know anything more about those listed above, please contact me.

Keep diggin’ for that family.

Chris

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Friday, September 12, 2014

Follow Friday–My Favorites from the Last Week (or so…)

Follow FridayThe below blog posts caught my attention over the past week or so and thought I would pass them along in case you missed them.

Thinking About Research Questions by Pat Thomson of the Patter Blog

A Beginners Guide to Newspaper Research for Genealogy by Kenneth Marks of the Ancestor Hunt blog

Photo Scanning - ScanMyPhotos.com Review by Jennifer Shoer of the Scrappy Genealogist blog

I hope you find these useful or at the very least, interesting.

Thanks for reading and keep diggin' for that family.

Chris

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Wednesday, September 10, 2014

This Day in History–10 September

LiebfrauenKirche (Church of our Lady)On this day in:

1757 – Malatiah Capen (Wife’s 2nd cousin 7 times removed) was born in Stoughton, Mass.

1757 – Jane Capen (Wife’s 2nd cousin 7 times removed) was born in Stoughton, Mass.

Selina Ann Canter Cantelo1905 – Selina Ann Canter Cantelo (Grandaunt) was born in Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales.

 

 

 

Thank you for reading – if you find a link to our family or would like to know anything more about those listed above, please contact me.

Keep diggin’ for that family.

Chris

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Tuesday, September 9, 2014

Tuesday’s Tip–Is My Source Lying to Me?

Question_GuyI am going to give two tips for this post and then offer a ‘what if?’ case study from one of my records.

1. Don’t always trust your sources at first glance especially secondary sources. Try and have at least two or more separate sources which tell you the same information. Of course, there are exceptions to this but I believe they are few and far between.

2. Get in touch with older or distant family members who knew the ancestor you are researching. Of course, this is not always possible depending on how far back you are researching. For instance, the record I’ll talk about below if for my great grandmother who passed before I was born. Her daughter, my grandmother, passed before I started researching so I can’t talk with her either. My mother knew her grandmother but didn’t know enough about her to answer questions that I had. However, when I started researching I still had great aunts, my grandmother’s sisters that I could contact. They have been a great help with stories and information that I just can’t get anywhere else.

So, if you don’t read anything else in this post, you have the two tips that I believe are priceless when researching your family history. For the rest of this post, I’m going to describe how those two tips combine to help piece together my great grandmother’s arrival in the United States and what could have happened if I did not follow these tips.

For the rest of this post I am going to be using the ship manifest which shows my great grandmothers arrival in the United States. You can read my initial post about that manifest here: Ship's Manifest. More specifically, I’ll be talking about the information given in the final destination questions on the manifest, shown in the picture below.

 

Manifest_Male CousinLooking at the final destination questions of the manifest it tells me that Anna was going to join her cousin Jakol Dorjak in Trenton, NJ. If I knew nothing else about Anna and where she was at different times after she arrived in the United States and I did not follow the tips I gave above, I would probably start a search for her in Trenton, NJ. She arrived in August of 1909, so I would start with the 1910 Census in Trenton. I would not only search for her but also the cousin, Jakol Dorjak. Before I start searching, I want to know this Dorjak name. I look through the family book of Anna’s home village and I cannot find a Dorjak so I suspect the spelling is a little off. I find a similar name, Doriath. I search through the nameManifest_Trentons and I can find a Jacob Doriath who is Anna’s cousin. I also find Franz Doriath who I suspect is the Franz Darjack traveling with Anna. The information on age and family matches what is said about him on the manifest. He has a brother, Josef, who he says he is going to join and their father is Josef, the closing living relative in country of origin. So, I’m pretty sure the Dorjak/Darjak names on the manifest are actually Doriath. I cannot find any Doriath or variant of it living in Trenton, NJ in the 1910 census so I expand the search to surrounding areas and other sources like city directories, etc… I’ll keep searching and expanding my search to maybe even trying to find the other Doriath lines hoping to find where Anna settled. As you can see this search could go on and on but I am not going to find Anna in New Jersey or the surrounding areas. Of course, I did not do all this searching for Anna because I followed my own advice above and checked different sources and I asked family members.

At the time I found the manifest I already knew that Anna was married and living in Detroit in 1914, I had a copy of my grandmother’s baptism record which showed this. Between 1909 and 1914 I had no idea where Anna was, where she met her husband or where she had her first two children. I had not found them in any census yet.

So, with the manifest and my grandmother’s baptism records it looked like Anna immigrated to Trenton, NJ in 1909. Then, in December of 1914 she gave birth to my grandmother. Everything in between was a mystery. This is pretty much all I knew about Anna at the time. If I had not followed my advice above and tried to contact family for information, I would have spent many countless hours searching as I described above. I did start to search in the Trenton area but at the same time I also contacted family, my great aunts to be exact, to see if there were any family stories about my great grandmother’s immigration. I was told that Anna immigrated with another family where she was going to tutor their children in English for room and board. They weren’t sure where she was lived for this but they also said that they believed Anna and John (their parents) met at Anna’s brother’s house, Adam Hinterhauser. But again, they didn’t know where this was. However, I had a knew clue to follow and a connection that I could make. I had found an Adam Hinterhauser in a ship’s manifest but didn’t know who this was and if there was any connection to Anna. Now I could make the connection that this could be Anna’s brother. In the manifest Adam said that his final destination was Youngstown, Ohio. To not drag this on too much longer, this is the final connection that put the pieces together. I found Anna and John in Youngstown, Ohio in the 1910 census, they were married. In fact, they were married in January of that year as I found out by writing to the Archdiocese of Youngstown and asking if they had a record of a marriage between Anna Hinterhauser and John Pakledinaz. They were very helpful, found the record of their marriage on 15 January 1910, and even sent me a copy of the marriage certificate.

With all this information, I believe that Anna’s final destination was probably Youngstown, Ohio where her brother already lived and she was going to be tutoring children in English. Things changed fast after she got to Youngstown. She met her future husband and they married just 5 months after she arrived in the United States.

Can I completely disregard the information about Trenton, NJ and her cousin? No, I can’t! I have two theories about this information.

1. The information recorded about her final destination was incorrect due to recorder error or maybe misunderstandings.

2. Anna, on her way to Youngstown, was going to stop and visit with her cousin for a while before moving on to her final destination with her brother. Jacob Doriath is Anna’s cousin and there is a Jakob Doriath arriving in NY in 1908 hailing from the same village as Anna, the ages match so this could be her cousin although is final destination is listed as NY. When asked what her final destination was she could have misunderstood and told them her next destination, which was to visit her cousin.

I would tend to believe that my second is more probable since her cousin is named in the document. This is just a theory and more investigation and research may lead to more proof that is concrete but I honestly doubt I will ever know the exact travels of Anna between New York and Youngstown, Ohio.

I made many mistakes in the early days of my family history hunt. However, in those early days I also read a lot of advice on how to conduct your research and the two tips I presented here are some of what I learned back then. I am glad I listened to that advice or I would have spent many useless hours searching for Anna in all the wrong places.

What was some of the best advice you remember from your early days of your genealogy journey?

Thanks for reading and keep diggin’ for that family.

Chris

Question Guy photo courtesy of: Scout

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